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date: Oct 3, 2022, 6:12 AM
subject: Power and Strategy of False Narratives
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The Following excerpt (Point 2 and Point 3) has to do with the term “Mass Formation Psychosis” and the work of Mattias Desmet.
Point 2: The reaction of Google and the corporate press regarding my saying the three words “Mass Formation Psychosis” on the famous Joe Rogan Experience/Malone podcast episode #1757 was to assert that there is no such term in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders of the American psychiatric association, and that I (personally) made up the phrase. Of course, this overlooks that the DSM of the APA focuses on the psychopathology of individuals, and not the psychopathology of groups.
Here is Breggin’s article on all of this, which misinterprets banter between two friends who have been through the barrel together as something more sinister. This seems to be the source of that part of the false narrative which my friend was repeating to me in his text.
Just to help prevent memory holing, here is another analysis of the Google overreaction after I said those three little words on Rogan. Frankly, I think that the response generated was a tell, and Google knows all too well that they are employing propaganda tactics to hypnotize and control thinking. And here is Vice telling you what you should be thinking about the topic.
Here is one podcast (with Mattias Desmet not involving me) dated 06 Dec 2021 employing the term. Before I went on Rogan.
This is the podcast [One hour20minutes, Excellent ++++ –FNC] where I first learned of the work of Mattias Desmet. What was the title, you ask? Psychological Tricks | What Is Mass Formation Psychosis? | Prof. Mattias Desmet| AMP. Note the date - October 20,2021.
851,626 views Oct 20, 2021 What are the conditions in any society that will cause a people to willingly sacrifice their freedoms? Mattias Desmet has studied and lectured extensively on this phenomenon called mass formation. He is a professor of clinical psychology at Ghent University has and holds a masters degree in statistics. After noticing some anomalies in the statistical analyses conducted during the pandemic, he became concerned by the consensus narrative. He joined me today to discuss his expertise in a phenomenon called ‘mass formation’, a type of collective hypnosis essential for the rise of totalitarian regimes. He provides the step by step formula for this collective psychosis to take hold and how this relates to our current situation. He cautions against the dangers of our current societal landscape and offers solutions both individually and collectively to prevent the willing sacrifice of our freedoms.
Then there is this obscure psychologist named Carl Jung that uses the term as well as developed aspects of the concept, as well as Joost Merloo, and Hannah Arendt. And of course Plato and the Allegory of the Cave.
Example summaries:
How Ideas can Trigger a Mass Psychosis 410,724 views Mar 31, 2021
The Manufacturing of a Mass Psychosis - Can Sanity Return to an Insane World 1,304,816 views Apr 24, 2021
The Mass Psychosis and the Demons of Dostoevsky March 31,2021
Is a Mass Psychosis the Greatest Threat to Humanity? February 26, 2021
And this classic:
MASS PSYCHOSIS - How an Entire Population Becomes MENTALLY ILL
5,284,807 views Aug 3, 2021 This video was made in collaboration with Academy of Ideas. They create videos explaining the ideas of history's great thinkers in order to help supply the world with more knowledge, to empower the individual, and to promote freedom. Please check out their youtube channel for more brilliant content. https://www.youtube.com/c/academyofideas or visit their website to learn more
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In this video we are going to explore the most dangerous of all psychic epidemics, the mass psychosis. A mass psychosis is an epidemic of madness and it occurs when a large portion of a society loses touch with reality and descends into delusions. Such a phenomenon is not a thing of fiction. Two examples of mass psychoses are the American and European witch hunts 16th and 17th centuries and the rise of totalitarianism in the 20th century. This video will aim to answer questions surrounding mass psychosis: What is it? How does is start? Has it happened before? Are we experiencing one right now? And if so, how can the stages of a mass psychosis be reversed?
So, should I apologize or make light of using a term that is well established in the psychology literature long ago, and was commonly used long before I became aware (of the theories and work of Mattias Desmet after October 20, 2021?
No, this is yet another false narrative, promoted by an 86 year old American psychiatrist who is trying to sell a book. And by the the corporate media.
I think not. There is nothing to apologize for. I did not invent the term.
Point 3: I do not understand this whole false narrative that Mattias Desmet and I are somehow excusing the Nazis. To my eye, this is just bizarre; a complete inversion of truth. Here is the relevant transcript and context, courtesy of Real Clear Politics. The relevant video clip from the Rogan interview is here. The original Real Clear Politics transcript has been edited, but here is the actual clip in which I speak about Germany.
“DR.
ROBERT MALONE: It's hard for me to reconcile the behavior of the government and
its public health decisions with the data. It is like there are two bins -- is
it incompetence or malevolence?
Is there some ulterior political motive or are they just dumb/stupid?
JOE ROGAN: If there is a political motive and that is written somewhere,
someone is going to jail. If that somehow, that's scary. I might be totally
naive.
...
DR. ROBERT MALONE: For me, the disclosure of emails that Cliff Lane, Tony
Fauci, and Francis Collins actively conspired to destroy any discussion of the
appropriateness of lockdown strategies, and the mainstream press hardly covers
it, and there are no consequences...
We're in an environment in which truth and consequences are fungible. This is
modern media management warfare. The truth is what those that are managing the
Trusted News Initiative say it is.
JOE ROGAN: That is wild. And for me personally, it is so confusing [that] I
find myself in this position where I'm compelled to have people like you on
because I don't know where else this is going to get out.
DR. ROBERT MALONE: Thank you... You can label me however you want to label me.
I've done what I want in my career... This is not a fun thing to be doing at
this stage...
Medicine is being destroyed, globally. People are losing faith in the whole
system, in the scientific enterprise, they're losing faith in our government,
they're losing faith in the vaccine enterprise.
What is going to be the long-term consequence on public health when you have a large fraction of the population who
wasn't "anti-vaxxer" before, who are now saying: "Oh Gosh, if
this is how these people make decisions, I don't want anything to do with it,
and I certainly don't want it jabbed into my kid."
...
Pfizer is one of the most criminal pharmaceutical organizations in the world,
based on their past legal history and fines. What do those fines include?
Bribing physicians. It is a cost-benefit analysis in the pharmaceutical
industry about misbehavior. They are not grounded in the ethical principles
that you and I, average people, believe in. They don't live in that world.
They are about profit, return on investment.
Furthermore, the overlords that own them -- Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street,
whatever -- these massive funds that are completely decoupled from
nation-states have no moral core or moral purpose. Their only purpose is the
return on investment. That is the core problem here, and the fact that we as a society
have become grossly fragmented...
This leads to the issue of mass formation psychosis that
professor Mattias Desmet of the University of Ghent has promoted... When the
psychiatrist/statistician (interesting combination) made this public, a lot of
us said it made sense. That was like the brain blast when I encountered the
Trusted News Initiative...
How does this happen? How do we have this emergent
phenomenon? The "how" question. And behind that is the
"why" question.
How is a third of the population basically being hypnotized, and
totally wrapped up in whatever the mainstream media and Dr. Fauci feeds them
and whatever CNN tells them is true?
The other day I was reading the New York Times about Omicron
and pediatrics and I saw this headline from an epidemiologist: How to
Think About Omicron’s Risk for Children
It was blatantly saying this is how you should think, we're going to
tell you how to think. People have to get that in their heads. That's the world
we're in right now.
What Mattias Desmet has shared with us is
another ["a-ha" moment]. This comes from European
intellectual inquiry into what the heck happened in Germany in the 1930s... How
did that happen?
The answer is [via] mass formation psychosis.
When you have a society that has become decoupled from each other and has
free-floating anxiety in the sense that things don’t make sense, we can’t
understand it. And then their attention gets focused by a leader or series of
events on one small point, just like hypnosis. They literally become
hypnotized and can be led anywhere.
And one of the aspects of that phenomenon is the people they identify as their
leaders, who come in and recognize their pain and say "I
alone can fix this for you," they will follow that
person through hell...
Anybody who questions that narrative is
immediately attacked. This is what has happened. We have all those conditions.”
The part edited out by Real Clear Politics in their transcript is as follows:
This comes from European intellectual inquiry into what the heck happened in Germany in the 1930s. Very intelligent, highly educated population, and they went barking mad. How did that happen?
So, please review the video. Read the words. Am I excusing what the Nazis did? No, I am clearly stating (“Barking mad”) that what happened with the German People enabling the horror of Hitler’s “Final Solution” was this process of mass formation, or mass psychosis, or mass formation psychosis. Now, is this my insight? Hell no. It traces in large part to the work of Hannah Arendt (1906–1975).
Hannah Arendt (1906–1975) was one of the most influential political philosophers of the twentieth century. Born into a German-Jewish family, she was forced to leave Germany in 1933 and lived in Paris for the next eight years, working for a number of Jewish refugee organizations. In 1941 she immigrated to the United States and soon became part of a lively intellectual circle in New York. She held a number of academic positions at various American universities until her death in 1975. She is best known for two works that had a major impact both within and outside the academic community. The first, The Origins of Totalitarianism, published in 1951, was a study of the Nazi and Stalinist regimes that generated a wide-ranging debate on the nature and historical antecedents of the totalitarian phenomenon. The second, The Human Condition, published in 1958, was an original philosophical study that investigated the fundamental categories of the vita activa (labor, work, action). In addition to these two important works, Arendt published a number of influential essays on topics such as the nature of revolution, freedom, authority, tradition and the modern age. At the time of her death in 1975, she had completed the first two volumes of her last major philosophical work, The Life of the Mind, which examined the three fundamental faculties of the vita contemplativa (thinking, willing, judging).
So, in this case, we have an 86 year old American psychiatrist who happens to be Jewish criticizing me for citing the work of one of the most important philosophers of the 20th century, who happens to have been born into a German-Jewish family, who experienced the horrors of the German madness and was a major intellectual force in developing a psychologic understanding of what happened in Germany.
In closing, a professional colleague recently wrote to me expressing sympathy and condolences about Peter Breggin, which included the following comment:
“Peter Breggin--Vera (Sharav) warned me about him quite a while ago.”
Vera Sharav is an actual holocaust survivor, and Founder of the Alliance for Human Research Protection. Not only is she not offended by anything I (or Mattias) have said, but she has asked me to write a chapter for her new book.
Once again, a promoted false narrative.
Now to the present.